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		<title>RobotRobot: Fix belt-slip citation</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fix belt-slip citation&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l15&quot; &gt;Line 15:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Transmitting power==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Transmitting power==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Gearmotors''' &amp;amp;ndash; a motor with a built-in gearbox driving the wheel directly. The most common choice in insect classes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Gearmotors''' &amp;amp;ndash; a motor with a built-in gearbox driving the wheel directly. The most common choice in insect classes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Belts''' &amp;amp;ndash; link wheels on the same side, and can slip a little under shock, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;protecting &lt;/del&gt;the gearbox.[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/ant-beetle-drive-belts]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Belts''' &amp;amp;ndash; link wheels on the same side, and can slip a little under shock, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;which can help protect &lt;/ins&gt;the gearbox &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(Ask Aaron makes the same point about weapon belts)&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/weapon.html] Repeat Robotics sells '''&lt;/ins&gt;[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/ant-beetle-drive-&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;belts drive &lt;/ins&gt;belts]&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''' sized for ants and beetles.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Gears and chains''' &amp;amp;ndash; strong and no slip, but they pass every shock straight to the motor. Chains are mostly seen in larger robots.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Gears and chains''' &amp;amp;ndash; strong and no slip, but they pass every shock straight to the motor. Chains are mostly seen in larger robots.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Friction (tangent) drive''' &amp;amp;ndash; a brushless motor's knurled shaft presses directly on the tire, with no gearbox. Light and simple, but it needs firm tires and the right amount of pressure: too little slips, too much overloads the motor.[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/tangent-drive-1406][https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/direct_drive.html]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* '''Friction (tangent) drive''' &amp;amp;ndash; a brushless motor's knurled shaft presses directly on the tire, with no gearbox. Light and simple, but it needs firm tires and the right amount of pressure: too little slips, too much overloads the motor.[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/tangent-drive-1406][https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/direct_drive.html]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>RobotRobot: New page: drivetrain layouts, power transmission, motors by class, gearing math, protecting the drive</title>
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		<updated>2026-10-17T06:26:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: drivetrain layouts, power transmission, motors by class, gearing math, protecting the drive&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;A robot's drive system &amp;amp;ndash; its motors, gearing and wheels &amp;amp;ndash; decides how fast it goes, how hard it pushes, and how well it handles. A great weapon is useless if the robot can't get it to the opponent. This page covers drivetrain layouts, motors for each weight class, gearing, and protecting the drive from hits. See also '''[[Wheels]]''', '''[[Motors]]''' and '''[[Insect Class Motors]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Steering==&lt;br /&gt;
Almost every combat robot uses '''tank steering''' (also called skid or differential steering): the wheels on each side are driven separately, and the robot turns by running the two sides at different speeds. It's simple, strong, and lets the robot spin in place. Car-style steering isn't used. Your radio mixes throttle and steering for you (see '''[[Radios/Mixing]]'''). For other steering types, see '''[[NameThatPart]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Layouts==&lt;br /&gt;
* '''2-wheel drive (2WD)''': light and simple, and favored by many top robots, but the wheels need to carry most of the weight (around two thirds) or they lose traction, and the robot can tip under hard acceleration.[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/design.html] Many drum spinners use 2WD.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''4-wheel drive (4WD)''': pushes harder and tracks straighter, but drags its wheels sideways when turning. Small robots often drive four wheels with two motors, using belts or gears to link the front and back wheels on each side.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''6-wheel drive''': usually with the middle wheels set slightly lower so the robot pivots on them when it turns.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Mecanum and omni wheels''' let a robot drive sideways, but give up traction and pushing power, so they're rare in combat.[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/motors.html]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Walkers and shufflers''' get weight bonuses under SPARC rules: 1.25&amp;amp;times; for shufflers, 1.5&amp;amp;times; for non-traditional drives (such as vibration or bristle drives and hovercraft), and 2&amp;amp;times; for true walkers (see '''[[SPARC Robot Construction Specifications]]''').&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transmitting power==&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Gearmotors''' &amp;amp;ndash; a motor with a built-in gearbox driving the wheel directly. The most common choice in insect classes.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Belts''' &amp;amp;ndash; link wheels on the same side, and can slip a little under shock, protecting the gearbox.[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/ant-beetle-drive-belts]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Gears and chains''' &amp;amp;ndash; strong and no slip, but they pass every shock straight to the motor. Chains are mostly seen in larger robots.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Friction (tangent) drive''' &amp;amp;ndash; a brushless motor's knurled shaft presses directly on the tire, with no gearbox. Light and simple, but it needs firm tires and the right amount of pressure: too little slips, too much overloads the motor.[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/tangent-drive-1406][https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/direct_drive.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Motors by weight class==&lt;br /&gt;
''Typical choices as of 2026. Products come and go, so check the '''[[Suppliers]]'''.''&lt;br /&gt;
* '''150 g:''' N20 and smaller N10 brushed micro gearmotors, such as FingerTech '''[https://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=N20-Mini-Spark Mini Sparks]''' and '''[https://www.pololu.com/category/60/micro-metal-gearmotors Pololu micro metal gearmotors]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''1 lb:''' N20s, 16 mm brushed gearmotors such as the FingerTech '''[https://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ft-Sspark16 Silver Spark]''' and '''[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/repeat-mini-brushed-mk2-1pcs Repeat Mini Brushed]''', and small brushless gearmotors.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''3 lb:''' 22 mm brushed planetary gearmotors (FingerTech, Repeat Robotics, BotKits), or brushless gearmotors such as the Repeat '''[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/repeat-compact-1806-mk2 Compact]''' and FingerTech '''[https://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ft-mega-spark-bl-1500KV Brushless Mega Spark]''', and Just Cuz Robotics '''[https://justcuzrobotics.com/products/blitz-lite-1604 Blitz]''' motors.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''12 lb and 30 lb:''' larger brushless gearmotors, often with hex output shafts, such as the Repeat '''[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/repeat-ultra-mk2 Ultra]''' and '''[https://repeat-robotics.com/products/repeat-drive-magnum Magnum]''', and Just Cuz '''[https://justcuzrobotics.com/products/zombox ZomBox]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
* As a rough guide for brushless drives, all the drive motors together usually weigh around 2&amp;amp;ndash;3% of the robot's weight. Brushless drive performance depends heavily on the ESC and its firmware (see '''[[ESCs]]''').[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/brushless_size.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gearing and speed==&lt;br /&gt;
Top speed (with no load) is:&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Speed = &amp;amp;pi; &amp;amp;times; wheel diameter &amp;amp;times; (motor RPM &amp;amp;divide; gear ratio)'''&lt;br /&gt;
For brushless motors, motor RPM is roughly Kv &amp;amp;times; battery voltage.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Examples:'''&lt;br /&gt;
* A brushless gearmotor with a 2300 Kv motor on a 3S battery (11.1 V) spins about 25,500 RPM. Through a 22.6:1 gearbox that's about 1,130 RPM at the wheel. With 1.75&amp;quot; wheels: &amp;amp;pi; &amp;amp;times; 1.75&amp;quot; &amp;amp;times; 1,130 &amp;amp;asymp; 6,200 inches per minute, or about 5.9 mph.&lt;br /&gt;
* An N20 gearmotor turning 1,215 RPM with 1.25&amp;quot; wheels gives about 4.5 mph. Around 4 mph is plenty for an antweight in a small arena.[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/ants.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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Real robots go slower than these no-load numbers. Faster isn't always better: lower gearing gives more acceleration and pushing power, which matters in small arenas, and extra power beyond what the tires can grip just spins the wheels. Team Run Amok's '''[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/optimum.html optimum gearing guide]''' and the '''[https://runamok.tech/squid/newtorquecalc.htm Tentacle torque calculator]''' ('''[https://runamok.tech/squid/bl_torquecalc.htm brushless version]''') help you choose. See also '''[[Speed Reduction]]''' and '''[[OnlineTools]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Protecting the drive==&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Support the output shaft.''' Don't let the wheel hang off the end of a gearmotor's shaft; support it on both sides with a bearing where you can.[https://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ft-bearing-block]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Mount motors mechanically''' with proper clamps or mounts &amp;amp;ndash; not glue, tape or zip ties.[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/design.html]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Harden your gearboxes''': threadlock the screws, and glue gearbox cases that tend to come apart. See '''[[Hardening Motors]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Shock-mount''' the drive or the whole chassis in high-energy classes (see '''[[Armor and Materials]]''').&lt;br /&gt;
* Keep the wheels covered by wedges or armor where possible (see '''[[Wheels]]''').&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[https://repeat-robotics.com/pages/combat-handbook Repeat Robotics &amp;amp;ndash; Combat Robot Design Handbook]'''&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/ants.html Ask Aaron &amp;amp;ndash; Ants, Beetles and Fairies]''' (Team Run Amok)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[https://www.riobotz.com/riobotz-combot-tutorial RioBotz Combot Tutorial]'''&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[https://combatrobotics.byu.edu/getting-started/helpful-tips BYU Combat Robotics &amp;amp;ndash; Helpful Tips]'''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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